From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:00:43 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:00:43 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Linux Terminal In-Reply-To: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> References: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <20140902140043.6f79ae84@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:58:54 +0200, Hellen & Dirk wrote: > Hello everybody, > > i use thinlinc-sserver on a debian wheezy and it works greate. > Also i can connect to a Windows 7 Terminal. > But i have a problem, i am trying to integrate ubuntuserver 14.04 but it > does not work. > Can anybody tell me what i am doing wrong or what i have to do ? > What error are you getting when things go wrong? 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Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:00:43 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:00:43 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Linux Terminal In-Reply-To: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> References: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <20140902140043.6f79ae84@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:58:54 +0200, Hellen & Dirk wrote: > Hello everybody, > > i use thinlinc-sserver on a debian wheezy and it works greate. > Also i can connect to a Windows 7 Terminal. > But i have a problem, i am trying to integrate ubuntuserver 14.04 but it > does not work. > Can anybody tell me what i am doing wrong or what i have to do ? > What error are you getting when things go wrong? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:00:43 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:00:43 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Linux Terminal In-Reply-To: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> References: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <20140902140043.6f79ae84@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:58:54 +0200, Hellen & Dirk wrote: > Hello everybody, > > i use thinlinc-sserver on a debian wheezy and it works greate. > Also i can connect to a Windows 7 Terminal. > But i have a problem, i am trying to integrate ubuntuserver 14.04 but it > does not work. > Can anybody tell me what i am doing wrong or what i have to do ? > What error are you getting when things go wrong? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:00:43 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:00:43 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Linux Terminal In-Reply-To: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> References: <1409072334.4257.2.camel@Laptop> Message-ID: <20140902140043.6f79ae84@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:58:54 +0200, Hellen & Dirk wrote: > Hello everybody, > > i use thinlinc-sserver on a debian wheezy and it works greate. > Also i can connect to a Windows 7 Terminal. > But i have a problem, i am trying to integrate ubuntuserver 14.04 but it > does not work. > Can anybody tell me what i am doing wrong or what i have to do ? > What error are you getting when things go wrong? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:04:40 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:04:40 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] User sessions's linear distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20140902140440.209784b3@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:24:08 +0400, ???????? ?. ?. wrote: > Hello everybody! > > > > What are parameters of VSMserver that allow to setup linear distribution of user sessions between 2 VSMagents? > > Right now VSMserver has a very complicated algorithm. Usually I have about 3 to 1 sessions even if I have identically hardware of VSMagents. > I'm afraid it's not possible to get the load balancer to simply have the same number of users on each agent. Identical servers should generally get similar number of sessions though. Could you share some load numbers with us when you have a large difference in sessions? Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ossman at cendio.se Tue Sep 2 14:06:42 2014 From: ossman at cendio.se (Pierre Ossman) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 14:06:42 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] Low Cost Android Thin Client. In-Reply-To: References: <53F523B8.7000604@mathcs.emory.edu> <5400B27C.9010307@online.de> <2E17A1C0E0016D489E0ADEF8FB2B872210260EC7@Exch-17.MessageExchange.com> Message-ID: <20140902140642.223aa738@ossman.lkpg.cendio.se> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:04:09 +0000, Leigh Porter wrote: > > I find it rather odd that I can pick up a cheap PC for less than many of these supposedly low cost thin clients. > The big difference is generally that thin clients also have some associated management system. This can be very valuable if you have a lot of devices out there. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Link?ping http://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be Thu Sep 25 13:55:58 2014 From: rob.de.langhe at twistfare.be (Rob De Langhe) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Thinlinc-technical] dynamically choosing terminal server Message-ID: <20140925135558.Horde.kiVYBbx5t6zUsLzEH0wjfA1@www.twistfare.be> hy ThinLinc enthousiasts, I am looking for a 'best practice' to box users in their individual virtual server. At the highest level, I can choose to create individual terminal servers at the time where a new user gets defined in the system (that user list will probably be kept in LDAP). So this would become potentially many (10's, 100's or even 1000's) of terminal servers. - disadvantages (if I understood well) : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the load-balancing method of the VSM server by some mechanism to force the VSM server to startup a session on a specific terminal server for an authenticated user ; a bit of effort to develop the automated creation/drop of virtual servers when users are created/deleted - advantages : user sessions are boxed ; virtual servers can be created and resources can be assigned/tuned dynamically At a lower level, I can define 2 (or more?) terminal servers to startup all user sessions. Is there a way to replace the startup of a user session on the terminal server by a script which determines a virtual server to use for that user, starts that virtual server (1-2 seconds needed only) does a X11-forwarded SSH connection to that virtual server and starts there a GNOME2 (or whatever chosen) X11 session - disadvantages : not sure (documentation?) how we can replace the session-startups on terminal servers by some new self-developed script (which will figure out the virtual server to use for this new session, startup that virtual server, SSH to it and starts session on it) - advantages : any server and any UNIX flavor can act as guest host to run such virtual servers ; virtual servers are totally independent from ThinLinc ; more control over the actions performed by the script running on the ThinLinc terminal servers Any comments, experiences, hints ? best regards, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: